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Oct. 27th, 2025 06:29 am"Non-facts do not exist do they?"
"No, they don't."
"And things which do not exist do not exist anywhere, do they?"
"No."
"Now, is it possible for things which do not exist to be the object of any action, in the sense that things which do not exist anywhere can have anything done to them?
"I don't think so."
"Well then, when politicians speak in the Assembly, isn't that an activity?"
"Yes, it is."
"And if it's an activity, they are doing something?"
"Yes."
"Then speech is activity, and doing something?"
He agreed.
"So no one speaks non-existent things: I mean, he would already, in speaking, be doing something, and you have agreed that it is impossible for non-existent things to have anything done to them by anybody. So you have committed to the view that lies never happen: if Dionysodorus speaks, he speaks facts–that is, truth."
A lot of Socrates is beyond me, but I think I have an answer to this one. "Do to" is a different action than "do with." You can't directly do anything to a falsehood, but you can do things with a falsehood, such as speaking it.
Also, you can indirectly do something to a falsehood, by changing other things such that a falsehood becomes true.
